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"The Cliches are a fun band . . . a terrific dance band!" - Mary Cronin

"The Cliches are a fun band . . . a terrific dance band!" - Mary Cronin

By MIKE CIDONI

Three Fisher students, with one other musician from the dance band the Cliches, have gotten a little closer to stardom.

They were selected from about 130 bands to represent Rochester’s local musicians on WCMF’s second Homegrown album, a collection of one-track songs by 10 local bands, to be released around Thanksgiving, said Trip Reeb, program director for WCMF.

Seniors John Perevich, Geoff Proud and Jeff Laben comprise three-fourths of the Cliches. Drummer Tom Backus, 21, formerly of Berkeley, Calif. School of Music, completes the band -which makes “music that really isn’t punk or new wave, just dance music,” Laben said.

The Cliches' Stickers

Cliches' Stickers

The Cliches formed in April of 1980 and first performed in public as an opening act for New Math in September of that year. They’ve since built such a steady following that they recently “opened for national stars The Ramones.

The Homegrown appearance will be the Cliches first “on vinyl” release.
“We did some recording last April at Sandcastle Studios that never got picked up; never made it out of the can,” Laben said.

WCMF is paying for all studio costs for recording the Homegrown track, which is being produced by PCI studio’s Todd Schaefer. Hi-Techs, Cheater, Stoney Creek, P.F. Flyers, Insiders, Little Trolls, Dark Star, Lifter and Buxx will also appear on the album.

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It was mid 1981, I think. Pee Wee, an old friend and former bandmate as well as the soundman for New Math, called and asked if I’d be interested in trying out for a band. The band was called Personal Effects. I said sure, I’d love to.

I went to try out with them and thought it went pretty well. The songs were cool, with chord changes I’d never thought of before. In general, things were an exercise in ‘less is more’ – using a minimalist approach to tell the slices of life that the songs expressed. I was called back many times before the end of the year and kept hoping that I was in the running, as I very much loved the material and the people. In December, I had a party during which Paul and Peggi told me that we had a gig lined up at Scorgies on January 23rd (this would be ’82). I said, “so, does this mean I am in the band?” They had a good laugh… they’d forgotten to tell me that I’d been in the band since, pretty much, the second time I ‘tried out.’

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Note, I have updated the link to Mike’s Show, Whole Lotta Shakin. Mike’s show is now on WRUR FM (and simulcast on Ithaca’s WITH FM)

Scorgies Reunion Poster by Bob Martin

Scorgies Reunion Poster by Bob Martin

The reunion is less than a week away and already we have three posters for the show. The latest is from Bob Martin and is to the left.

Bob, Simon Ribas, Pete Presstone, Gary Trainer, Del Rivers and meself will be guests on Whole Lotta Shakin with DJ Mike Murray. WLS is broadcast every Saturday between 4-6 PM on 88.5 WRUR FM (formerly on RIT’s WITR FM).

A note about tickets: while they are not being sold through Ticketmaster (hey, no egregious service charges), they are available at the Bop Shop ( Village Gate Square, 274 North Goodman Street ph. 585-271-3354) or at Abilene (153 Liberty Pole Way  ph. 585-232-3230).

This just in (From Abilene’s website):

“Make plans for the Scorgie’s Reunion After-Party later that night at ABILENE save your ticket stub and your first drink is FREE!”

Note: for of out-of-town friends who need to purchase tickets in advance; please call the Bop Shop at 585-217-3354 and the Bop Shop staff will help with your ticket purchases.

Also, If anyone out there doesn’t want to worry about driving, Jim Havalack of Quality Transportation can arrange anything from a Sedan to a Limo to take you and your freinds to the Scorgies Reunion in safety and comfort. Call 585-455-8294, mention Scorgies, and you’ll get a special rate!

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I played a gig in Albany, NY last night and ran into Kevin Maul(?). Some may remember Kevin as the WCMF DJ that went on before Uncle Roger or you maybe remember him as the steel guitar player guy.

I mentioned the Scorgies reunion to him knowing he also was once a Rochester guy!

He said that he was in the 1st “band” to play Scorgies! He said the Dady Brothers were the 1st band to play there!

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Being a fat and insecure sophomore at Pittsford-Mendon was hard in 1983-84, but being turned onto the local music scene, the great bands of the day just making waves in the underground music world and seeing live music at a club was life changing!

I struggle to remember much of my time at Scorgies but I do recall me and my friends (who were also band mates of mine) sneaking into there at least twice. Once I know we saw a Personal Effects set and one other time …dare I say it was either for a Rain Parade or a Let’s Active set. I just remember being so worried that we would be kicked out. We were there to see live music by these bands we were just learning about and not those big RAWK show at the War Memorial.

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One of the Scorgies artifacts I came across recently was a cassette of The Royals – Live At Scorgies which was actually recorded live but with applause dubbed in! It was intended for booking the band into other bars, but with the credence of having played at Scorgies. I think my friend Jon Pirincci (of Musical Messages Agency) dubbed the tapes. I actually met the guys from the Royals literally by accident at a tent festival show that featured Roy Orbison (prior to The Traveling Wilburys). We had to wait a long time for Roy because he was “warming up his voice.” Years later I found out about his secret cocaine habit;  perhaps that could have been the reason for the long wait.

I’m not sure if I first met George “Michael” Schnell and Mick Hargreaves of the Royals at a Red Wings game or an N.R.B.Q. concert (either before or after). Regardless, we became fast friends with common musical tastes. They used to have a partyin’ apartment right across from Wegmans near East Avenue that was always filled with pot smoke, music, and bed sheets hanging over the attic ceiling (like a harem den!). They were transplants from NYC and had common friendship with the Tension guys;  guitarist Mike Pappert (from Fairport) and Swing Set drummer Dave Martin (Liebowitz), who I believe was also from NYC.

George Schnell was a meticulous guitar player who eventually opened the Studio At The Village Gate recording studio. He’s known for recording bluesman Chris Beard and was briefly a Country Music DJ; and still spins  at Jeremiah’s Tavern on Monroe Avenue. Mick Hargreaves used to videotape bands for local cable TV then moved to NYC with The Diljoys and formed the Tonebenders with guitarist Doug “Davies” Cox. He later became a member of the Grip Weeds and is presently a solo artist.  By the way, one former  Royals member, drummer Joe Minotti, is currently in  Joe Hendrick & The Mudflaps.

George told me that he envisioned the Royals as a cross between 10 CC and Dave Edmunds. Eventually, as all bands seem to do, the Royals came to an end (much like Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe’s band Rockpile). George Schnell continued on with variations of the Royals; but by then it was pretty much a party house band providing studio support for his original songs.

The. tape Live at Scorgies had covers of Dave Edmunds’ Dear Dad, Nick Lowe’s I Knew The Bride, the Beatles One After 909 & Honey Don’t and Elvis Presley’s Little Sister. The originals were Get Me Out Of The Red and Let’s Jag. Get Me Out Of The Red was played extensively on local radio stations. The Royals came close to releasing a 45 single (or album) of Are You A Dancer?” b/w I’m Falling that was produced by Jeff Tyzik (yes, it’s the same big band RPO leader!). Upon listening it’s apparent that the Royals, like many other bands, could have been on the cusp of having a hit record. And like the other Scorgie’s bands – maybe they could reunite eventually for a night or two – this time for real!

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Three of the Hi-Techs, Martin Edic, Peggi Fournier and Paul Dodd, before going on stage at Scorgies in 1980

Three of the Hi-Techs, Martin Edic, Peggi Fournier and Paul Dodd, before going on stage at Scorgies in 1980

Robert Slide, New Math’s original bass player, sent took these photos

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I can remember the first time I heard the Chesterfield Kings, and of course, it was at Scorgies. It was February 1980, and I was there to see New Math as well as Cappy & the Frenchmen, also on the bill. As my designated driver, Del Rivers, and I walked down the stairs, we heard the strains of the Yardbirds “Evil Hearted You”-who the heck would be doing this song?!?. Most new music bands threw in a token ’50’s or ’60’s rocker for fun, but not like this! The ‘Kings were still a four piece at this point; Ori wasn’t with them. The cranked out one 1960’s garage rock tune after another, and I just couldn’t believe anyone would do all these obscure songs in 1980. Girls were screaming, people were standing on chairs and the night was a total blast.

Hello fellow Rochester rockers. I just found out about this site…thanks Stan…wow, I haven’t heard some of these names in years. It’s great to see my fellow bandmates from The Now (Larry and Steve) being remembered. If I wasn’t down here in Auckland, I’d definitely be there for the reunion.  Have a drink (or two) for me.

Cheers,

Marty Duda

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As the new wave was beginning to gain greater acceptance, more and more local bands were attempting to put on shows at established bars and clubs. The problem each band encountered was that club owners expected two to three 45-minute sets from the acts. While this had not been a problem with stadium rock wanna-be bands, doing our own songs, all of which were less than three minutes long (at 200+ bpm), was too daunting.
Evolving out of the dissolution of the first New Math iteration, I sat in on bass with a group of musicians that were sharing practice space the Cox building and from this came The Targets.
The idea for The Targets developed from one of those “ah-ha” moments when Sue Metro and I realized that what was needed in Rochester was an opening act. Sue and I both agreed that we would open for any act, at any club, under the following conditions:
1)    No sound check
2)    No dealing with PA or lights
3)    Use the amps from the other bands
4)    Show up, plug-in and play for 30-minutes
5)    Party for free while enjoying the headline acts
A simple concept that we were lucky enough to enjoy from 1979 to about 1981. The Targets initial lineup was: Sue Metro – guitar, Michele Ford – vocals, Tim Roberts – drums and Robert Slide – bass.  The groups’ first show was at Scorgies playing with The Chesterfield Kings and New Math. Subsequently, The Targets were featured on Tom Kohn’s production of the L.P. “From the City that Brought You Absolutely Nothing” – playing White Corvette, recorded on a TEAC 4-track in my parents basement. The second line up of the group featured Trisha Knight on vocals for the duration of The Targets life in the Rochester music scene.
I remained good friends with Sue Metro over the years and she went on to be in several more notable bands (High Risk Group and Lucky 57) in Boston and Providence.
Until recently I had lost track of Trisha who, thanks to the Scorgies reunion made contact with Sue and I. Tim and Michele have not, as yet, been located but hope they hear about the November 21st reunion and show up at The German House.
For those of you who remember The Targets, Sue, Trisha and I have been given a slot of time out of New Math’s set to do three of our songs from our days as an opening act. For this we owe a debt of thanks to Gary Trainer and all of the New Math Now folks who support our return to playing (if only for one night). I have not touched my Rickenbaker in more than 25-years, so what your will hear on November 21st is anyone’s guess – but in the end, isn’t that what the new wave was all about? Grab a guitar and play!

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