{"id":1311,"date":"2008-11-13T14:21:26","date_gmt":"2008-11-13T18:21:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/?p=1311"},"modified":"2024-02-01T20:09:58","modified_gmt":"2024-02-01T20:09:58","slug":"one-good-set-list-deserves-another","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/?p=1311","title":{"rendered":"One Good Set List Deserves Another"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>SET LIST MANIA<\/h3>\n<div id=\"attachment_1444\" style=\"width: 226px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/set_list_rays_stag.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1444\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1444\" title=\"Projectiles Set for Ray's Stag\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/set_list_rays_stag-308x450.jpg\" alt=\"Projectiles Set for Ray's Stag\" width=\"216\" height=\"315\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1444\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Projectiles Set for Ray&#8217;s Stag<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Set lists are instant artifacts; hastily scribbled out on a scrap of paper before a gig (I used to use old band fliers). Typically, after the band had loaded in and finished their sound check, you had a little time left to scratch out a set list before the audience filtered in and then hand copy it out for other band members, unless you were organized enough to put together one <strong>before<\/strong> the gig!<\/p>\n<p>If you were the second or third on a bill then you could luxuriate in the dressing room drinking beers put together a list of songs (or, if you were <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marcgeller.com\/people\/iyall.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"  rel=\"lightbox[1311] noopener\">Debora Iyall<\/a> of <strong>Romeo Void,<\/strong> you would get your set together while downing two dozen of Scorgies&#8217; finest Buffalo wings). If your band was on the bottom of the bill, however,&nbsp; you didn&#8217;t have much time to commit your list to paper (especially if you were a &#8220;Last Minute Larry&#8221; like me).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve acquired a few set lists from <strong>New Math<\/strong>, <strong>Personal Effects<\/strong>, <strong>Hi-Tech<\/strong>s, <strong>The Press Tones<\/strong>, <strong>The Projectiles, <\/strong><strong>The Cliches, Bowery Boys and Invisible Party<\/strong>. I&#8217;m certain that a few of the <strong>Scorgies <\/strong>alums among us will be printing them out and trading them with their pals. Check them out after the jump.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1316\" style=\"width: 330px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/presstones-setlist.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1316\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1316\" title=\"presstones-setlist\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/presstones-setlist-320x450.jpg\" alt=\"Actual Presstones Setlist\" width=\"320\" height=\"450\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1316\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Actual Press Tones Setlist<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This one, from the <strong>Press Tones<\/strong>, was written on a heavy piece of art paper. Print it out and compare it to the one they&#8217;ll use at the Reunion!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1420\" style=\"width: 266px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/early-new-math-set-list.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1420\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1420\" title=\"Early New Math Set List\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/early-new-math-set-list-256x450.jpg\" alt=\"Early New Math Set List\" width=\"256\" height=\"450\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1420\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Early New Math Set List<\/p><\/div>\n<p>An excellent example of a hastily written set list. Looks New Math was either brown-bagging it that night or was into recycling back in those days. Given the dim lights of a nite club this must have been hard to read!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1434\" style=\"width: 280px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/new-math-rochester-art-guild-1978.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1434\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1434\" title=\"New Math Rochester Art Guild 1978\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/new-math-rochester-art-guild-1978-338x450.jpg\" alt=\"Rochester Art Guild 1978 Set List\" width=\"270\" height=\"360\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1434\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rochester Art Guild Set List<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This set list, which came to me labeled &#8220;Rochester Art Guild 1978&#8221; denotes the playing time penciled in alongside each song. Bands had to conform to club owners time constraints back in the day (see Robert&#8217;s earlier post on New Math).&nbsp; Gathering together material for three sets was quite an undertaking, especially if youe were trying to squeeze in as much action as possible! The <strong>Scorgies<\/strong> DIY ethos changed that tradition for good.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1320\" style=\"width: 289px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/new-math-setlist.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1320\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1320\" title=\"new-math-setlist\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/new-math-setlist-279x450.jpg\" alt=\"New Math Setlist\" width=\"279\" height=\"450\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1320\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">New Math Setlist<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Lessons learned: this New Math set list is much more legible.&nbsp; Looks like Kevin (or Gary) started to write the list using a ball point pen then switched to a magic marker. Much easier to read from a distance!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1461\" style=\"width: 262px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/targets-song-list-with-timings.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1461\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1461\" title=\"Targets List With Timings\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/targets-song-list-with-timings-450x439.jpg\" alt=\"Targets List With Timings\" width=\"252\" height=\"246\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1461\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Targets List With Timings<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Okay, I see pattern emerging here. This&nbsp;set list from the <strong>Targets <\/strong>was &#8220;for the Chesterfield Kings (first gig) and New Math show &#8211; The Targets played the middle set.&#8221; You&#8217;ll note that Robert broke the set down into sections with each segment timed. It&#8217;s a meticulous approach but I wonder, as Robert noted in his comments about his New Math set list, whether or the song lengths were accurate when the <strong>Targets <\/strong>played before a live audience. Interestingly, Robert added that the show was videotaped and he has the tape!<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1376\" style=\"width: 296px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1376\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1376\" title=\"Hi Techs Set List with notes for Sound Man\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/set-list-hi-techs-286x450.jpg\" alt=\"Hi Techs Set List with notes for Sound Man\" width=\"286\" height=\"450\"><p id=\"caption-attachment-1376\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hi Techs Set List with notes for Sound Man<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Peggi sent this to me and noted that the set list contained &#8220;reverb requests from sound man at Scorgies. Must have been one of our first gigs there.&#8221; I guess they must&#8217;ve gotten pretty comfortable with the sound engineers at Scorgies over the years.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1382\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/setlist-personal-effects-1982.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1382\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1382\" title=\"Personal Effects Set List from 1982\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/setlist-personal-effects-1982-450x344.jpg\" alt=\"Personal Effects Set list from 1982\" width=\"360\" height=\"275\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1382\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Personal Effects Set List from 1982<\/p><\/div>\n<p>By the time this set list was created, it&#8217;s plain to see that Personal Effects didn&#8217;t need to add notes for the sound man.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1386\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/pe-setlist-7-17-82.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1386\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1386\" title=\"Personal Effects Set List from July 17th 1982\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/pe-setlist-7-17-82-450x348.jpg\" alt=\"Personal Effects Set List from July 17th 1982\" width=\"360\" height=\"278\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1386\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Personal Effects Set List from July 17th 1982<\/p><\/div>\n<p>It&#8217;s great when you read a set list and can hear the songs in your head (and no, it&#8217;s not a sign of early onset dementia). I especially loved their cover of Taana Gardner&#8217;s <em>Heartbeat, <\/em>an R&amp;B hit that was in heavy rotation on <strong>WDKX<\/strong><em>. <\/em>It was a crowd pleaser, as denoted by its position in the encore. You&#8217; ll notice in this set list that <em>Porch <\/em>has also moved to the encore as well, It wound up recorded and released as a single (backed with <em>A Mess<\/em>) that was distributed to concert attendees at the <em>This Is It, Life Hereafter<\/em> record release party.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1407\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/cliches-set-list.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1407\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1407\" title=\"Cliches Set List\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/cliches-set-list-450x291.jpg\" alt=\"Cliches Set List\" width=\"360\" height=\"233\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1407\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cliches Set List<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A set list is also useful, after a gig, to review what went well and is an excellent reference point to note the songs that went over well with the audience. You&#8217;ll note that, among the songs checked off on this list, the <strong>Cliches <\/strong>went on to record <em>Riverview Restaurant <\/em>for the <strong>WCMF <\/strong><em>Homegrown Vol. 2 <\/em>compilation.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1413\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/projectiles-song-catalog.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1413\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1413\" title=\"Catalog of Projectiles Songs\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/projectiles-song-catalog-450x225.jpg\" alt=\"Catalog of Projectiles Songs\" width=\"360\" height=\"180\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1413\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Catalog of Projectiles Songs<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Of course, it was of equal importantance for every band to maintain a catalog of songs that they knew. Like the <strong>Chesterfield Kings <\/strong>before them, the <strong>Projectiles <\/strong>were hard-core afficianados of early psychedelia and obscure 1960&#8217;s era garage rock music. Its interesting to see is that this list denotes the sources of the songs they covered.&nbsp; After the <strong>Projectiles <\/strong>broke up, members would later form or become part of other 60&#8217;s fueled bands <strong>the Quatloos, Fertility Rite Brothers<\/strong>, <strong>Susan and the Surftones,<\/strong> <strong>the Riviera Playboys, <\/strong><strong>Dan Frank and the True Believers <\/strong>and probably other too numerous to mention.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1416\" style=\"width: 294px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/fugitives-set-list.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1416\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1416\" title=\"Fugitives Set List\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/fugitives-set-list-284x450.jpg\" alt=\"Set List for the Fugitives\" width=\"284\" height=\"450\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1416\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Set List for the Fugitives<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Before they were the <strong>Fugitives<\/strong>, they were the much loved <strong>Bowery Boys<\/strong>. The <strong>Bowery Boys <\/strong>were a Scorgies institution, and Geoff &#8220;Joff&#8221; Wilson was a regular upstairs as well as down. A few these songs have been part of Joff&#8217;s set since the early days and the NYC edition of the <strong>Bowery Boys <\/strong>still performs <em>Shadows <\/em>(as evidenced in clip posted on YouTube:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bowery Boys live @ Lit Lounge 12-29-07\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6OFczejLnzE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em>Bowery Boys &#8211; Shadows and Echoes<\/em> circa 2007<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1437\" style=\"width: 246px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/invisible-party-set-list.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1311]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1437\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1437\" title=\"Invisible Party Set List\" src=\"http:\/\/www.scorgies.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/invisible-party-set-list-295x450.jpg\" alt=\"Invisible Party Set List\" width=\"236\" height=\"360\"><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1437\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Invisible Party Set List<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Up to now, most of what I&#8217;ve written has been pure conjecture on my part. I&#8217;m sure there will be corrections and additions to this post. So in order to wrap this article up I offer up an <strong>Invisible Party <\/strong>set list from one of our last headlining gigs (the gig also featured the deubt of Russ Lunn&#8217;s <em>War Music Dance)<\/em> . In a departure from my usual style I actually composed this set list in advance of our gig then Xeroxed copies of it on sheets of 11 x17 paper. It contains a sarcastic note (to myself!) pertaining my inability to remember the lyrics <em>to Ghostriders in the Sky<\/em> . it seems as if I was also concerned about Pete Latham&#8217;s ability (he had just joined the band) to play on <em>A Hundred<\/em>, our first (and only) release on Jargon Records (after all, Lynne did have to teach him the bass part for the Beatle&#8217;s &#8220;Rain&#8221;). Also telling is the addition of the two songs at the bottom of the list. I was worried that we&#8217;d run out of material for a two set gig!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SET LIST MANIA Set lists are instant artifacts; hastily scribbled out on a scrap of paper before a gig (I used to use old band fliers). 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