{"id":1211,"date":"2008-11-10T11:43:09","date_gmt":"2008-11-10T15:43:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/?p=1211"},"modified":"2008-11-10T11:43:09","modified_gmt":"2008-11-10T15:43:09","slug":"del-rivers-my-big-fish-tale-scorgie-years","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/?p=1211","title":{"rendered":"Del Rivers &#8211; &quot;My Big Fish Tale&quot; (Scorgies Years)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.greendoch.com\/del\/del_CS.gif\" rel=\"lightbox[1211]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.greendoch.com\/del\/del_CS.gif\" alt=\"Del Rivers &amp; The Electric Cowboys\" width=\"180\" height=\"229\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Del Rivers &amp; The Electric Cowboys<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I guess it all started around the late 1970\u2019s. In high school, I kinda got off on pissing-off the Hilton farm boys\u00a0 that teased me about music. All you would hear is <strong>Lynyrd Skynyrd<\/strong>, <strong>Genesis<\/strong>, and <strong>Stanley Clarke<\/strong> jazz. I was going to train to be a DJ, but sadly our equipment was busted and there were only a few <strong>Beatles<\/strong> records worth playing. I never became a DJ at school, but had a reputation for liking alternative stuff and hung out with similar people. I kept buying cool albums, 45s, and 8-tracks that were rebellious or non-popular items. I scoured every budget bin. I was a DJ in my short college days, mostly at parties and a couple bars later on. I hadn\u2019t quite appreciated hard Punk Rock like the <strong>Sex Pistols<\/strong> or stuff like <strong>Iggy Pop<\/strong> or <strong>Johnny Thunders<\/strong> until I met Luke Warm \u2013 the most infamous DJ at Scorgies. He often mocked my occasional <strong>Fleetwood Mac<\/strong>, <strong>Boston<\/strong> or <strong>Foreigner<\/strong> T-shirts left over from that time period. My neighbor, Mike Murray (from <strong>WITR\u2019s<\/strong> \u201cWhole Lotta Shakin&#8221;) grew up near me and is probably responsible for getting me into music and comedy (<strong>Ramones<\/strong> &amp; <strong>Elvis Costello<\/strong> after school, <strong>Saturday Night LIve<\/strong> &amp; <strong>SCTV<\/strong> late at night). We would try to outdo each others collection and knowledge of trivia. After seeing <strong>New Math<\/strong> open for the <strong>Ramones<\/strong> at the Auditorium Theatre, we were hooked on going to Scorgies every week.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>New Math&#8217;s<\/strong> &#8220;Die Trying&#8221; became everyone&#8217;s anthem. Mike Murray started to learn guitar; and I bought a blue sparkled Slingerland drum set (albeit missing parts) from <strong>Sonny Boy<\/strong>; a Rockabilly singer as well as a bouncer at Scorgies. Before I knew Sonny, I thought he was Asian, not Native-American which we\u2019d joke about. At first, Mike wanted me to try singing as he played and\/or try to play drums. I learned a basic beat from playing a previous set of Ludwigs borrowed from my sister\u2019s boyfriend. Ultimately, I was too limited and so Mike found another drummer and started a real band. I was relegated to maracas or backing vocals at times with Mike\u2019s bands the <strong>Reactions<\/strong>, <strong>Hidden Charms<\/strong>, <strong>Quatloos<\/strong> and the <strong>Fertility Rite Brothers<\/strong>. I thought my initial band names were cool&#8230;like <strong>The Piss-Offs <\/strong>or <strong>White Male Supremes<\/strong>(!). I came up with my alter-ego, a combination of Johnny Rivers and Del Shannon (I actually met Del Shannon at a festival tent and received Christmas cards that he signed from his fan club).<\/p>\n<p>Mike and I were still working together soon after on <strong>WITR<\/strong> with Mick Alber.\u00a0 At first, the show was called <strong>Psychedelic Sunday<\/strong>, then <strong>Boss Beat<\/strong>, and is now called <strong>Whole Lotta Shakin<\/strong>. My association with the show allowed me several backstage interviews and MC work. It felt as if I was almost Rochester&#8217;s version of Dick Clark as I introduced several Scorgies bands with a cheap joke or bad impression. Through Scorgies, I was able to befriend several bands and musicians. This led me to create a <strong>Boss Beat<\/strong> TV show; however the pilot video never aired (and is currently missing). I imagine my show would have been similar to <strong>WXXI&#8217;s <\/strong><em>On Stage<\/em> program; only over 20 years ago. I\u2019ve also written many reviews of Scorgies bands for the local <strong>Notebook<\/strong> and <strong>Shindig<\/strong> fanzines. Pat Thomas from <strong>Absolute Grey<\/strong> and Jim Havalack (former <strong>Chesterfield Kings<\/strong> manager) started them, respectively.<\/p>\n<p>Dave Anderson of <strong>Saxon Recording<\/strong> helped me make my first record in his early attic studio, with backup assistance from the <strong>Projectiles<\/strong>. The first track was <strong>Second In Line<\/strong> (co-written with Luther Holtzman of the BBB\u2019s). They referred to it (at the time) as <em>Suckin\u2019 The Lime<\/em> because I had a cold and it had to be sped up to correct the pitch! Prior to recording music, I tried my hand at managing bands with Jon Pirincci\u2019s <strong>Musical Messages Agency<\/strong>. One of his clients, at that time, was <strong>Rick Baker &amp; The Commercials<\/strong>. I sadly remember when Jon (who is now an actor\/comedian) handed one dollar to each member of The <strong>Presstones<\/strong> because the soundman had to be paid first and there was no money left. He was fired on the spot. I tried to manage a few solo artists and an early offshoot band of <strong>The Insiders<\/strong> known as <strong>The Mods<\/strong> (now called <strong>Intrigue<\/strong>). I often videotaped bands at Scorgies until Armand Schaubroeck (of the House of Guitars) stopped me one night during a <strong>Chesterfield Kings <\/strong>gig there!<\/p>\n<p>Music itself has changed greatly since <strong>American Idol<\/strong> and \u201ciPods\u201d seemed to ruin a lot of it. Maybe the bar is now set too high; because anyone could make it; up into the mid-1980\u2019s, I suppose. Being at <strong>Scorgies<\/strong>, I witnessed Punk to Power-Pop to Garage Rock to Rockabilly Revivals, and lastly Alternative Rock. The anomalous music that I liked was British Invasion (done American style), Roots-Rock Americana, and Surf-Rock. I\u2019m especially a big <strong>Bobby Fuller 4<\/strong> fan. People that went there were quite diverse as well \u2013 from Nazi Skinheads all the way to ultra Gay Cross-Dressers. I sort of felt like a misfit among misfits! Before I started creating my own songs for myself, I wrote a batch of lyrics and a couple demos for <strong>Cousin Al<\/strong> with guitarist Chaz Lockwood. One was <em>Surfin\u2019 Dog<\/em>; and the other was <em>My Little V-6<\/em> which I wrote with Ed \u201cHank Blast\u201d Karuth (of the <strong>BBB\u2019s\/Shakin&#8217; Bones<\/strong>) and Dan Frank of the <strong>Projectiles<\/strong> (then the <strong>Riviera Playboys<\/strong>). Both <em>Second In Line<\/em> and <em>My Little V-6<\/em> (and later <em>She Walks Like A Robot<\/em>) received some college radio airplay.<\/p>\n[audio:http:\/\/www.greendoch.com\/del\/Del-SWLAR.mp3]\n<p><strong>Del Rivers and the Electric Cowboys<\/strong> &#8211; <em>She Walks Like A Robot<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Sadly, I only sang back-up with Scorgies bands (like the <strong>Fugitives<\/strong> or the <strong>Fadeaways<\/strong>) and never performed much there for anyone to notice. I worked extensively with <strong>McFadden\u2019s Parachute<\/strong> later on and hit with the CD track &#8211; <strong>Stop Pushin\u2019 Me<\/strong>. My live \u201csinging career\u201d pretty much ended with the <strong>Quitters<\/strong> on <em>Ride On, Josephine<\/em> at the <strong>Bug Jar <\/strong><strong>Bo Diddley<\/strong> tribute show. I wore my 80&#8217;s thin black tie in memory of the Scorgies era. I hung at <strong>Scorgies <\/strong>through the changes to <strong>Yuk-Yuk\u2019s<\/strong>, <strong>Funny Bone<\/strong>, <strong>Token Joe\u2019s<\/strong>, and the re-incarnation of <strong>Scorgies<\/strong>. At <strong>Yuk-Yuk\u2019s<\/strong>, I began an on-and-off stand-up comedy career. After all this, I saw how time had changed me when I took a look at myself in the Bo Diddley Tribute video. it wasn\u2019t drugs &amp; alcohol that aged me\u2026it was the end result of battling career challenges, debt, and the loneliness that comes from following an alternate way of life. I\u2019m sort of like England\u2019s Johnny Sandon who sang with the <strong>Searchers<\/strong> &amp; <strong>The Remo 4<\/strong> and then became a stand-up comic\u2026But I still wouldn\u2019t change anything. And I still miss getting that slice of pizza at Scorgies downstairs!<\/p>\n<p>Del Rivers Trivia:<\/p>\n<p>The song <em>My Little V-6<\/em>, was also considered for use by <strong>Gary The Happy Pirate<\/strong>\u00a0for his puppets and for the show <em>Life Without Shame<\/em>. Del did a cameo on <em>Life Without Shame<\/em> in the <em>Psychic Faire<\/em> episode.<\/p>\n<p>Del&#8217;s step-grandmother on his mother&#8217;s side was a cousin to <strong>Bobby Darin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Del appeared in and on <em>City Newspaper <\/em>with an article written by Thom Metzger &#8211; a former member of <strong>The<\/strong><strong> Badenovs<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>A girlfriend of Del&#8217;s Scorgie&#8217;s years was Charlotte Petras. Charlotte claimed to be a part-time stripper, and said that she once played keyboards with <strong>The db&#8217;s<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Other cable-TV shows that Del was involved with in the &#8217;80&#8217;s were <strong>The Humor Room<\/strong> and <strong>The Herb Iitch<\/strong><strong> Box<\/strong>. Today, he is on <strong>YouTube<\/strong>\u00a0videos and the <strong>Frontal Lobe and Dumplings<\/strong>\u00a0cable-TV show.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I guess it all started around the late 1970\u2019s. In high school, I kinda got off on pissing-off the Hilton farm boys\u00a0 that teased me about music. All you would hear is Lynyrd Skynyrd, Genesis, and Stanley Clarke jazz. I was going to train to be a DJ, but sadly our equipment was busted and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":25,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[133,219,222],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1211"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/25"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1211"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1211\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1211"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1211"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scorgies.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1211"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}